This is the overflow from panel 1: Expanding Your Niche: Roleplaying In Non-Standard Universes.

I really enjoyed that panel. You did great.

Thank you! I've certainly learned a lot over the years, and so it's nice to be able to share it, and learn some new things, as well!

I agree with Wes awesome work

Alright, to answer questions

Thats one of the reasons my fleet is truly democratic, everyone has a voice in our operations.

(now we don't have to rush as much so more question time yay)

They even voted on a new name. (edited)

Yep, that's why at the beginning we tried to teach some of these things. it goes in order (edited)

One of the best ways to run a community, kudos. @[Zodiac Fleet] NX-1701-G

18 years and still going...

1. Bossiness. My goodness, I can not stand when a leader is bossy and forces you to do things. 2. Inequality between members (like an oligarchy) If they feel one person is above others in the roleplay that pushes them away

Those are the top 2 things

But with more expansive fleets, doesn't the whole democracy bit create problems? Does anyone use an overseeing entity (council) to guide the bigger decisions?

^ @kumi (edited)

A council works well when you also weigh in the opinions of the community. (edited)

it honestly depends on what works best with your site

So, when I asked before about branching out, I asked because I'm not clear on what to do to get more people. I advertise on Facebook and on the Recruiting Discords because I'm looking for an 18+ player base who are willing to play characters in their mid to late 20s to mid to late 30s. I'm not getting much of a response to my ads, but I suspect it's because I'm doing a reboot, a concept I inherited from another sim, when that sim flopped.

Probably. Reboots don't tend to get as much attention as original ideas.

What exactly is your sim about?

It depends on the situation in my view regarding a council vs. Democracy as there are times where people may not feel they had adequate time to participate. Plus, sometimes people do pursue their own agendas

Indeed.

@[SB118] Lael Roesk We use a GM council in 22nd. All officers serve at the pleasure of the council, and every major decision is voted on

@Chistery while we do get older players, I've found that a lot of our new players lately are younger, so it might just be the trend at the moment.

I'm going to take a restroom break, I'm leaving Korra to answer questions for now.

Ladies, you're stealing my thunder...

o - o

@<°°> Yoda My man, focus on your panel. They're just answering questions. (edited)

I inherited a Stargate Reboot. SGC is leveled and the gate is buried for 20 years. So, basically, Stargate Canon stops after S2 E1 and picks up again in 2019

@[22]TheeFlamehead We have a ship staff and me and the CO try to look for opinions and opportunities to participate in OOC and IC aspects from the non-staff as much as possible.

I've seen your ads

Awesome. That sounds like a good way to ensure that players are invested

Since our panel was almost finished, I'm going to post our resources section now.

I'm going to take out the anti-super character comment. It's a bit harsh and off-putting. I was going for humor, but I think that flopped and scared off people.

>ladies

yes korra is a dude btw

I'm a guy, yeah, lol.

These tools are v good

I don't mind younger players, but characters under 25 are inappropriate for the SG-Teams for example.

Yeah, definitely some age ranges just aren't appropriate for certain things which is understandable

And of course, the only response I got so far from the recent ads was someone who wanted to play an 18 year old Alien Liaison, even though the ad clearly states I'm looking primarily for military characters. The sim is in part stalled because I'm playing all of the antagonists, all of the off-world NPCs, and all of the military characters, and it's just too much.

Yeah, playing with yourself is not fun. So you've been using Facebook groups, right?

Facebook, RPG Recruiting Discord, Major Tom's Discord, Fall Fest, Sci-World and Project Khitomer (though I need to update ads on the last two).

Does anyone have a list od recruitment sites, facebooks, discords?

yeah maybe try some recruitment groups on google groups, maybe twitter would be good to advertise on too, and advertise on some forums

I had a good one at one point, but lost it. I would say the OngoingWorlds one, but it's dated.

I haven't found any active Stargate sites to advertise on. Well, there was one, I think. Maybe. But it was a terrific pain to use.

RPG-Directory, RPG Initiative, RPG Fix are just a few off the top of my head

I'll look at those, thanks

RPW would be a great place to advertise... if it wasn't dead. : p Well correction, RPW is dead on-wiki but it's chat is active.

:pacmen:

The chat you can only use if ur account is 4 days old though and it's mostly just a bunch of teens talking to each other, not truly roleplayers.

^

Yeah, we're 18 plus 2/2/2, in part because my toons have sewer mouths.

Yeah, most people there are 13-16

Which complicates things if you strictly forbid those age groups lol

Used to be an administrator there, it's definitely not what it was like when Yatalu had it.

Yep

I also need a very strong, very organized XO, who can execute my thoughts, idea, and plans. I'm more of an idea guy. Execution is a real struggle for me. (edited)

Oh same

Btws, there are some things we didn't get to, so here's a transcript of our entire panel. We also left some things out because of time, so it would be cool to read through it if you want more ideas https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LaRu6XNx4I24X6M7Qp_NARhZolbXwLI1XN1MTnDObnY/edit?usp=sharing

I love being that person, haha. Which is why when I run a simm, I often do it solo

And excellent, thank you for sharing!

Np!

Great session!

Awesome

Wow! That's a detailed rundown.

yep, we wrote out an entire script haha

thats why at some points we went quite fast because we started copy pasting lol

Well thanks for coming y'all, if you have an additional questions you can ask here until 3:00 or DM either Korra or I, our DMs are open! And if you're interested in seeing how our home community TDL is run, check it out at https://the-demons-light.fandom.com I'll be taking my lunch break so all questions are going to be answered by Korra. See y'all

Oh here was the ongoing worlds list: http://www.ongoingworlds.com/blog/2019/10/7-great-places-to-advertise-your-game/

That was a good list.

Yep

Actively going out of your way to ignore canon and establish things in a universe is, in my eyes, a bit disrespectful. For example, if you were to be trying to run a game with a player who wanted to be playing as GASP the third child of Anakin and PAdme

You've seen that game too?

Just kidding

There are a lot of people who do stuff like that

Even worse, ones who change their character after you've approved it

What are you referring to?

Like, people who actively go against established canon

Ahh

Such as the theoretical example I gave

oh just in general? yes i agree

Like writing a character for Trek whose Great Grandfather was Spock or something like that?

Like say you as a GM approve a character who was just a normal soldier

But then out of the blue the player changes it to be "BUT ACTUALLY HE'S THE SON OF [insert major canonical character here]" or "BUT ACTUALLY HIS MEMORIES ARE FALSE AND HE'S A BIOWEAPON" without your approval

See

That is something that would drive me nuts.

But the show is doing that! (edited)

No, I'm not bitter

I'm absolutely not bitter right now

100% this is not something that has happened to me as a GM

lol

Same. We try to limit that sort of thing as it becomes soooooo Mary sue or Gary stu

The worst part is when no one else thinks that there's anything wrong with that

I've retconned in the past, but only with permission of the GM. From the GM side (and personally, for my own characters as a player) where ever possible I reject and/or alter canon if the canon was clearly a speed of plot thing and makes no real sense.

I don't mind a retcon, but I would say no if the retcon was something major like that.

Yep. Me too

We try to avoid it and just lead it in a better direction when we can

I like to play fast and loose when it comes to canon. I have one major rule. "Never let canon get in the way of a good story."

Sort of a "next"

You know, by all means, discover a long lost sister on the other side of the galaxy. But for all that is good in the world, don't make that sister the Borg Queen.

Canon for me is more of a series of guide posts

Damn, there goes my next character suggestion @aio ...

There should be limits for sure

I'm not secretly seething in anger right now after my group's administration would do nothing about the change that player made

https://tenor.com/view/chill-destress-woosah-calm-down-relax-gif-5102209

To circle back, canon can be a good thing

Hell yeah

It's what you do with it that makes it useful

Definitely. It gives you something to work within

If you don't know the limits of the world you're writing in how are you supposed to know if something is reasonable or not? I understand that there needs to be a certain amount of suspension of disbelief for the purposes of writing and reading stories. However in order to best connect with others and create a fun story it needs to be somewhat realistically attuned to real life experiences. That's how you're going to catch people the best

Yup

And if you are just expanding what already exists, you can throw stuff from real life into it, and just grow something from seed to oak tree.

That's from LotR or something haha (edited)

My apologies

I understand my panel better now

Tell me: what are things that happen always wherever you RP

Another good piece of advice is to know the difference between IC and OOC situations. For example if your character does something wrong, there'll be consequences. They will get in trouble, but with OOC communication, you the writer, aren't in trouble. Hopefully that all makes sense because it's something I learned early on.

when I first joined the game (UFOP: Starbase 118; I was stationed on Ops at the time), I didn't know about the Hobus Supernova because the universe primer hadn't been written yet. When I was told Romulus went boom, I did a minor retcon and worked that into the character's backstory.

What I enjoyed about all RPs I've done so far, is that they're really open to new players